Curse

Genosha · Mar 31, 2005, 03:35 AM // 03:35

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

All i can say is that i have not
it simply works out to whatever works for you and there is room for all

Amen to that!

megazero · Mar 31, 2005, 03:44 AM // 03:44

im using a

AMD 2100+
Ati 9600XT
768MB DDR400
17" Monitor
60GB Hard drive + 20 GB hard drive

Ellestar · Mar 31, 2005, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by staindreality

well mine doesnt compete with most of yours but mine is:
dell
pentium 4 2.4 mhz
1gig ram
4200ti geforce 4 (? i just ordered a leadtech geforce 6600gt and should be in tomorrow. i was wondering if anyone new if my power supply will be ok to support the card with my dell?)
cd rom drive
cd/rw drive
sound blaster live

I had 300 W PowerMan power supply with same configuration - P4 2400, 1 Gb RAM, GeForce 4 Ti 4200, combo drive (DVD and CD-RW). When i upgraded video to GeForce 6800 it wasn't enough. 360 W PowerMan power supply works fine. GeForce 6600 gt uses almost as much power as GeForce 6800 so probably you need 360 W power supply too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK

Also, i gave it an upgrade in ram... up to 511 (even tho i thought 512 was the standard.)

You have 512 Mb RAM for sure. Most likely that BIOS uses 1 Mb to cache ROM and shows that you have less RAM.

Genosha · Mar 31, 2005, 06:44 AM // 06:44

350+, But more like a 400+. For what I run a 400 barely works.. Next Power supply will be a 500+..... But i'm running a Antec Case with a 400W I installed itself because the supply I had was a 350W it did not do the job....

Virtuoso · Mar 31, 2005, 04:22 PM // 16:22

AMD Barton 2500+ ($118)

Intel P4 3.0GHz ($198)

I have benchmarked both of these processors in similar systems and the AMD beat the P4 by a small margin. Not bad considering how much cheaper it is. Keep in mind I also bought my Barton almost 2 years ago, when they first came out, for $80. Do you have any idea how much the P4 3.06GHz was at that time? A lot more.

Oh, and I didn't mind your post. It's not offensive at all. But while were "bashing", it's OK because I realized you shop at Fry's.

The ony people I know that shop there for hardware are people who live in Canada because they can't get some of the deals in other places like we can in the states.

-Virt

Loviatar · Mar 31, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtuoso

AMD Barton 2500+ ($118)

Intel P4 3.0GHz ($198)

I have benchmarked both of these processors in similar systems and the AMD beat the P4 by a small margin. Not bad considering how much cheaper it is. Keep in mind I also bought my Barton almost 2 years ago, when they first came out, for $80. Do you have any idea how much the P4 3.06GHz was at that time? A lot more.
-Virt

i got mine for 79 (RETAIL PACKAGE)

do not ever buy the OEM processor which has a 30 DAY warranty when you can buy the RETAIL for only a few dollars more with a 3 YEAR warranty

shoot those have gone up in price

DarkWasp · Mar 31, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23

You know what bothers me sometimes, There is alot of people who bust 600 USD on a 3gig P4 and a Geforce 6800 with all the overclockage and stuff. And you later find them complaining about there PCs running slow and buggy.

There are two reasons for this, They only have 512 mb of ram. If you want to run games with all the settings up, and the veiw distances and all, you will need around 768 or more.

And two clear spyware and adware off often.

Just some advice

Genosha · Apr 04, 2005, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Virtuoso

Hee hee, Most of the people that argue CPU's get offended when I get into the differences of durability & power.

Your pretty cool....

Quote:

DarkWasp
You know what bothers me sometimes, There is alot of people who bust 600 USD on a 3gig P4 and a Geforce 6800 with all the overclockage and stuff. And you later find them complaining about there PCs running slow and buggy.

There are two reasons for this, They only have 512 mb of ram. If you want to run games with all the settings up, and the veiw distances and all, you will need around 768 or more.

And two clear spyware and adware off often.

Now now, I run 512 mb of ram on 3 computers and they are some of the fastest you have ever seen. BUT, you are right for the most part most people don't ever clean the cache in their browser or run drive clean-ups (I.E. Defrag) and scan disk in XP is useless.

CheopisIV · Apr 04, 2005, 05:37 AM // 05:37

My latest wanna-build is as follows...(and I predict SLI will go the way of 3DFX aka

IE!) (<---- edit = oopsy, made a stoopid

face read as "DIE!)

Dave's Dream Machine

Intel Pentium 4 Processor 660 3.60 GHz $829.95

Asus P5AD2-E $329.95

eVGA e-Geforce 6800 Ultra 256MB DDR3 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, TV-Out $829.95

Antec TruePower 550W EPS12V for Server Boards $169.95
Viewsonic P225FB (Pure Flat CRT, 22in, Black) (Special Order) $829.95
Samsung SyncMaster 213T (LCD, 21in, Black - Special Order) $1199.95

Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95
Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95
Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95
Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95

-Western Digital Raptor 74.8GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA $249.95
-Western Digital Raptor 74.8GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA $249.95
Seagate 400GB Barracuda 7200.8 Serial ATA w/ NCQ, 8MB Cache $469.95
Seagate 400GB Barracuda 7200.8 Serial ATA w/ NCQ, 8MB Cache $469.95

LiteOn 52x32x52x/16x CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo Drive, Black (OEM) $64.95
Plextor PX-716A 16x16 Dual Layer DVD+/-RW (Retail) $169.95

Wave Master Aluminum Case, Black (Special Order) $209.95

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro (Retail) $339.95

Logitech Z-5500 Digital THX® Certified 5.1 Speaker System $369.95

$7744.05
+GST
$8286.13

or maybe I'll buy a Jeep lol.

Lews · Apr 04, 2005, 05:54 AM // 05:54

I hate to say it, but for that money you could buy a way better pc... There's these things called amd and ati.

NEWater · Apr 04, 2005, 07:53 AM // 07:53

Here is my humble system.

Intel Pentium 4 2.8E
1 GB Corsair DDR-SDRAM
80GB Toshiba HDD
80GB Western Digital HDD
ATi Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB 256-bit memory
Creative Audigy Platinum External
Creative 5.1 speakers (forgot model number)
Sennheiser PC150 (for gaming)
Sennheiser HD477 (for music/movies)
Logitech MX510

Zfactor · Apr 04, 2005, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Intel P4 560 3.6 GHz w/ HT
ATI Radeon x800 XT 256MB PCI Express x16
1024MB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM @ 533MHz (2x 512 MB)
2x 74GB Serial ATA Western Digital "Raptor" HDD (@ 10,000 RPM)
48x CD-RW/ || 16x DVD+/- RW
SoundBlaster Audigy ZS 2 THX Certified
Windows XP SP2
Logitech MX1000 Lazer Mouse

I just got the system to replace my 5 year old hunk of junk about 5 months ago (Near the release of Half-Life 2)

CheopisIV · Apr 04, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lews

I hate to say it, but for that money you could buy a way better pc... There's these things called amd and ati.

Lol, I know..this was just a composite of the "top-o-the-line" parts available at one particular store in my city. Remember, this price is in Canadian funds, which translates to about $62.53 US...give or take a couple G's.

Elythe · Apr 04, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genosha

Now now, I run 512 mb of ram on 3 computers and they are some of the fastest you have ever seen. BUT, you are right for the most part most people don't ever clean the cache in their browser or run drive clean-ups (I.E. Defrag) and scan disk in XP is useless.

512 mb of ram works just fine for me, too. And as far as defragmentors go, I've found Diskeeper works pretty well.

www.diskeeper.com

Sennarc · Apr 05, 2005, 02:02 AM // 02:02

I am overdue for a little bit of an upgrade. When Guild Wars comes out I will be running it on a Athalon XP 1800, 512mb of standard DDR ram, Radeon 9700, Soundblaster Audigy. but, by the end of the summer I should be running on a
Athalon 64 FX 939 3500, 1 gig of Corsair ram, ATI Radeon 9700, Sound Blaster Audigy and hopefully, I will have enough left over to throw in a 200 gig 7200 rpm HD.

SSE4 · Apr 05, 2005, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Just so some of you know, the XP line of processors were typically behind in consideration to their "P-scale".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtuoso

"I am really surprised by the number of Intel users in this post."

You can truly be surprised by the number of Intels out there when it owns more than 75% of the market share?

I have several computers but I intend on using my AMD for Guild Wars, like I do for all games.
AMD64 3500+ Winchester
Neo4 Platinum SLI
512MB XMS Corsair RAM
GeForce 6600GT

Also Sennarc, you might be misinformed, but the normal "3500+ models" are not called FX.

The majority of you don't need to worry about your computer specs. It's not like you're playing Half-Life 2, it's mostly your VGAs that are going to take a hit from a MMORPG.

Virtuoso · Apr 05, 2005, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSE4

Just so some of you know, the XP line of processors were typically behind in consideration to their "P-scale".

You can truly be surprised by the number of Intels out there when it owns more than 75% of the market share?

I have several computers but I intend on using my AMD for Guild Wars, like I do for all games.
AMD64 3500+ Winchester
Neo4 Platinum SLI
512MB XMS Corsair RAM
GeForce 6600GT

Also Sennarc, you might be misinformed, but the normal "3500+ models" are not called FX.

The majority of you don't need to worry about your computer specs. It's not like you're playing Half-Life 2, it's mostly your VGAs that are going to take a hit from a MMORPG.

Yes, because almost all of the gamers I know run AMDs. Therefore, in a gaming forum, I am suprised at the number of people running Intels.

-Virt

Virtuoso · Apr 05, 2005, 04:35 AM // 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genosha

Virtuoso

Hee hee, Most of the people that argue CPU's get offended when I get into the differences of durability & power.

Your pretty cool....

Thank you for the compliment. I try to stay cool, although it can be difficult at times, lol.

-Virt

SSE4 · Apr 05, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

This forum may focus around a MMORPG, but when I see MMORPG players they hardly classify as "gamers" in a lot of respects. They aren't typically as enthusiastic. Sure they have that drive for classical RPG action on a wider scope, but it doesn't even put them anywhere near the "enthusiast" list, which is really one of the only prominent groups that would think of using AMD. Also, Intel has superior influence in the market due to companies like Dell.

Virtuoso · Apr 05, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Yea, I agree with you. I was just surprised. Nothing more, nothing less.

-Virt